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Mccalldy1 · 02-17-2009, 04:21 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMpgSc0EoWw
i think this is really low...i used to respect craig..a lil bit but thats all gone
hes dissing the guy who pretty much made escape the fate as they are..everything they sing, where they are, is because of ronnie even though he fucked up still...
i personally like ronnie way more...but im not complaining how craig is the new singer..i just think that was pretty low Big Grin

thanks

thisWARisours · 02-17-2009, 04:47 PM

You do know that the only reason he said Ronnie could suck him was to prove the point that comparing the two is stupid.

He already said how he doesn't like comparing them, and I'm pretty sure Ronnie agreed with him.

That was awesome how he said get the fuck out ahah.

And if Ronnie is so good, how come he couldn't even keep the band together?

Obviously it didn't mean that much to him if he would rather get in a fight and do drugs than actually lead the band.

Geki · 02-17-2009, 04:59 PM

That's pretty fucked up. I think Craig should have not said anything, that would just be better...

thisWARisours · 02-17-2009, 05:09 PM

(02-17-2009 04:59 PM)Geki Wrote: That's pretty fucked up. I think Craig should have not said anything, that would just be better...

I think he was just fed up with thinking that him and Ronnie hate each other and how everybody can only like one or the other.

Geki · 02-17-2009, 07:25 PM

It's like everyone on the forums doesn't like Ronnie or something.

thisWARisours · 02-17-2009, 07:33 PM

(02-17-2009 07:25 PM)Geki Wrote: It's like everyone on the forums doesn't like Ronnie or something.

I like him and all for starting it, but I like Craig equally for picking it up after Ronnie left ETF without a singer.

Can think of it two ways Wink

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Mainly because This War Is Ours is just such an amazing song, I have to love Craig for it!

Geki · 02-17-2009, 08:01 PM

I just hate how people say they hate Ronnie when they were a fan since the beginning. It's like, obviously you had to have liked him at some point because you became a fan before Craig was even in the picture at all. I can understand people that say that when they just got into ETF when Craig joined though.

StevenSegaul · 02-17-2009, 08:06 PM

(02-17-2009 08:01 PM)Geki Wrote: I just hate how people say they hate Ronnie when they were a fan since the beginning. It's like, obviously you had to have liked him at some point because you became a fan before Craig was even in the picture at all. I can understand people that say that when they just got into ETF when Craig joined though.

The way I see it is, Ronnie started this band, and he was a good singer, but he was a big asshole and screwed the band and the fans over way too many times. Craig came in and saved Escape The Fate. Without Craig, ETF would have broken up. If you're a true ETF fan, you'll love them no matter who their singer is. And, I think Craig has earned the right to talk about Ronnie, because of all the things he's had to deal with because of Ronnie and "Ronnie Lovers". Why were those people at the concert in the first place?

X_EtFObsessed_X · (This post was last modified: 02-18-2009 09:13 AM by X_EtFObsessed_X.)

Craig said that because he's fed up with some of ETF's so-called 'fans' chanting Ronnie's name at gigs. He's standing up for himself -- and you get mad? Fuck, I would have said that a long time ago to be honest.
Yeah, Ronnie was a good singer. But he screwed up. The band gave him his chance. If he didn't want to take it, then that's his problem. I mean, no-one asked him to get into a fight, skip probation or whatever it was. That was HIS choice, and now he has to suffer the consequences.
Craig saved ETF. We still have ETF. If he hadn't stepped in when he did, ETF would have died an early death. Craig has earned his place in the band now.
Just get over it -- Craig's in ETF now, and he's an amazing singer. He's an amazing guy who's standing up for himself.
Oh, and I do believe we live in something called 'a democracy'. Craig's just doing what we're allowed to do in a democracy, which is say what we want or whatever it is.
Go Craig! Heart

thisWARisours · 02-18-2009, 12:59 PM

The answers in this thread are perfect!

And I did become a fan of ETF after Ronnie was gone, so that's why I love Craig.

Orlie · 02-18-2009, 03:32 PM

I went to see ETF live but I must admit that without Ronnie ETF is as good as any other posthardcore/alternative/screamo/whateveruwannacallit band that has sold at least 2 CD's on a worldwide scale....

Ronnie made ETF what it is today, Craig just kept it alive after he was gone Big Grin

thisWARisours · 02-18-2009, 03:46 PM

Well Craig kept Ronnie's dream alive.

Shelby x · 02-18-2009, 05:07 PM

(02-17-2009 04:47 PM)thisWARisours Wrote: You do know that the only reason he said Ronnie could suck him was to prove the point that comparing the two is stupid.

He already said how he doesn't like comparing them, and I'm pretty sure Ronnie agreed with him.

That was awesome how he said get the fuck out ahah.

And if Ronnie is so good, how come he couldn't even keep the band together?

Obviously it didn't mean that much to him if he would rather get in a fight and do drugs than actually lead the band.

Agreed. I love Craig, I love Escape The Fate, I love Ronnie. But Craig kept ETF alive, and produced an awesome album, so for all I care Ronnie can suck him.

Geki · 02-18-2009, 09:16 PM

I don't want people to think I hate Craig because I don't. I like him a lot. I was just saying. I think it's funny that he said Ronnie could suck his dick. Lol.

Laura · 02-24-2009, 02:04 PM

I love Craig, but I think it's kinda funny how he first sais Ronnie can suck his dick and then he sings a song Ronnie wrote.
(I'm sorry if I write some faults, but I'm Belgian so my English isn't that great.)