ETF has got to remember the good times.

[ronnie4evr!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmaoK1wsCwk

How can they watch this and still be ok will Craig in the band. Ronnie was their friend. Craig is just a guy they hired to sing and look good on stage. Ronnie was there for them at all times and a REAL freind. ETF may act all buddy buddy with Craig, but Cmon! He is NOT a freind like Ronnie was. Yes I know Ronnie may have fucked up (his story is a little different) but I know my friends would not leave me hanging if I got in trouble. Real friends can tell him that once he gets out, that hes gotta stay clean, not just kick him out without telling him! That what Falling in Reverse and Epitaph is doing for Ronnie. They are warning to stay clean to make a record, and I know he is going to do it.

Once again. I just cant see how ETF isnt seeing that Craig is just a fill in and Ronnie was a real friend. Thats fucked up.

[Laura]

omfg --'
fans should stop acting like they know what exactly happened,
because they don't -neither do i-
seriously, we weren't there!
god, i'm so sick of this.

[ThatDarnBandit]

Ronnie was given so many chances it was sickening. They told him "Ok if you want to stay in the band you have to do this and this" multiple times and he NEVER did the things they wanted from him. He wouldn't stay clean, he wouldn't stop messing around, hell, he didn't even show up to one of their shows, and craig was luckily there and was able to fill in.

[ronnie4evr!]

Yeah but they act like he never existed. I would NEVER leave my friend behind if he had a problem. Ok kick him out of the band if thats what they had to do, but leave him, talking shit on stage like "this song is called if you would stay of the drugs, you could stay with your band" They act like that long friendship never mattered.

[missxLiz]

People need to not be so stuck in the past and pay attention the the present and the future.
Ronnie has his new band.
If you wanna talk about him, go to their myspace or whatever.
Don't come here to whine about how much he should still be in ETF and blah blah blah.
He's NOT in the band anymore
and NEVER will be again.
He doesn't even want to be, he dislikes the rest of the guys very much now.
Craig has surpassed everyones expectations of what he can bring to ETF.
Support Escape The Fate with Craig, or GTFO!

[xxescapefatexx]

goshhhhhhhhh
people ronnie was awosme but they wouldn't be this far with ronnie's drugs and craig is awsome and if it wasn't for craig ETf would have fallen to pecies

[ASnowWhiteMurder]

I don't care about the argument that you guys are having. I care about who the fucking keyboardist is. I haven't seen him before.
Max KO'ed me with his mohawk...thing.
Ronnie sounded emo ( no pun intended)
And seeing three guys raise their heads to scream scared the shit outta me.

That video killed me!

[ASnowWhiteMurder]

(08-12-2009 11:35 AM)vtolegend Wrote:  

(08-12-2009 11:27 AM)ASnowWhiteMurder Wrote:  I don't care about the argument that you guys are having. I care about who the fucking keyboardist is. I haven't seen him before.
Max KO'ed me with his mohawk...thing.
Ronnie sounded emo ( no pun intended)
And seeing three guys raise their heads to scream scared the shit outta me.

That video killed me!

the keyboardist was carson allen

Oh... well that video scared me worse than Shark Week on On Demand.

[MrAero]

They didn't forget about him o.O
They don't play his personal songs like "The Day I left A Womb" but yes it is fucked the wrote a song about him "We Won't Back Down"

[thisWARisours]

(08-08-2009 09:59 AM)vtolegend Wrote:  

(08-08-2009 06:56 AM)ronnie4evr! Wrote:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmaoK1wsCwk

How can they watch this and still be ok will Craig in the band. Ronnie was their friend. Craig is just a guy they hired to sing and look good on stage. Ronnie was there for them at all times and a REAL freind. ETF may act all buddy buddy with Craig, but Cmon! He is NOT a freind like Ronnie was. Yes I know Ronnie may have fucked up (his story is a little different) but I know my friends would not leave me hanging if I got in trouble. Real friends can tell him that once he gets out, that hes gotta stay clean, not just kick him out without telling him! That what Falling in Reverse and Epitaph is doing for Ronnie. They are warning to stay clean to make a record, and I know he is going to do it.

Once again. I just cant see how ETF isnt seeing that Craig is just a fill in and Ronnie was a real friend. Thats fucked up.

Craig is their friend too.
LOOK AT THIS: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3200/3086...46.jpg?v=0
THEY BECAME FRIENDS ON THE BLACK ON BLACK TOUR! SO research your stuff if your gonna post something with ignorance. Listen to they're interview with AP mag. They said they were miserable with ronnie. Like max has said over and over in numerous interviews, they tried helping him but enough was enough. They told him he was out, they didnt go behind his back like TWA did to craig. Friends dont make friends miserable. Thats what ronnie did. Friends dont steal from friends. Thats what ronnie did. He became twisted. So just let it go.

haha .

but yeah, let it die. its not like they didnt give him chances, and they have said in interviews that they want to be friends...but ronnie says fuck all of them. he is the one who wants to be a dick.

[etf30stm]

random point.... monte on the sticker on twio album and the pic below thisWARisours threads dosnt look a bit like him haha wierd

[ASnowWhiteMurder]

(08-13-2009 04:19 AM)etf30stm Wrote:  random point.... monte on the sticker on twio album and the pic below thisWARisours threads dosnt look a bit like him haha wierd

Oh that's Monte, he just looks 19 or 20 O_O. I love it

[thiswariskaceys]

i'm sure they do...but a lot of bullshit has happened, and the true fans will support them no matter what.